tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post3052656693255346775..comments2024-02-13T05:22:51.497-08:00Comments on CAMILLE KIMBALL: Confessions of a Slightly Famous Crime Writer: Jury Foreman for Jodi Arias - Crime Writer Inside the CourtroomCamilleKimballhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14896253762859151536noreply@blogger.comBlogger230125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-27128766236178146322013-05-27T07:14:35.233-07:002013-05-27T07:14:35.233-07:00Anonymous May 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM: First I believe...Anonymous May 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM: First I believe this man is a Narcissist, and he probably forbade his wife to watch the trial (but I think she sneaked anyway) He seems to be very overbearing, therefore also at home. Also I think Nurmi had him pegged right - remember Nurmi deals largely with sexual deviant and perverts. IMO Graf Grafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424980564958646393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-17743393435080819602013-05-27T06:46:52.029-07:002013-05-27T06:46:52.029-07:00Thank you Camille for your most insightful article...Thank you Camille for your most insightful article. I do my best thinking in the morning, so while reading about Zervakos, some nagging feelings finally materialized into a cohesive thought. First this is not a criticism of the State and the Prosecutor - only an observation IMHO. Maybe showing those extremely graphic close-ups of Jodi's genitalia to an 8-man jury of mostly older men may Graf Grafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424980564958646393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-44804097150925907522013-05-26T22:19:03.662-07:002013-05-26T22:19:03.662-07:00I think she put the camera in the washing machine ...I think she put the camera in the washing machine because it was covered in blood, hers and his, it traveled with her through the whole killing scene and if she took it with her that would be theft/felony + murder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-69312715338461896032013-05-26T19:28:56.279-07:002013-05-26T19:28:56.279-07:00I must agree about the "pretty eyes". S...I must agree about the "pretty eyes". She has the scariest eyes I think I've ever seen. Before I really knew anything about this case I saw a clip of one of her jailhouse interviews (may have been 48 hours). Now, keep in mind, I didn't know a thing about the case at that time and the first time I saw her I had a visceral reaction to her. It was her eyes. The emptiness of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-32411742708424513872013-05-26T19:09:05.083-07:002013-05-26T19:09:05.083-07:00Sure appreciate that you are sharing your perspect...Sure appreciate that you are sharing your perspectives with us, Ms. Kimball. You have obviously stimulated some interesting discussion as well. The very first thought I had as I listened to this strange man (who could NOT WAIT to begin his 15+ minutes) was, "I wonder how he will feel when someone plays mama Arias' interview just after her daughter was arrested." Her descriptions Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-43510293907084913052013-05-26T17:04:13.708-07:002013-05-26T17:04:13.708-07:00I notice on your website that Marjorie Orbin prefe...I notice on your website that Marjorie Orbin prefers Prison to the county jail, and seems to have things like work detail and human interaction at the prison- she said she was happier there. Was she at the same jail that Jodi Arias is at now? Is she now at Perryville, and did she start off there under the same constraints that Jodi will if she gets LWOP?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-91528433828932293712013-05-26T16:22:04.556-07:002013-05-26T16:22:04.556-07:00Great article!Great article!Bubbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14959441498231657519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-71624127459727716732013-05-26T16:17:41.527-07:002013-05-26T16:17:41.527-07:00You can almost tell he that he watched TV and read...You can almost tell he that he watched TV and read everything at night about Jodi and the trial in the news. He said she was beat up by the MEDIA!!!! I just pray that something like this never happens to his family or grandchildren in life. They have to live with his walk of shame who was taken in by the devil, she stared at the juror so much, maybe he wanted just a litttle piece of the sex Bubbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14959441498231657519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-89226536760600548902013-05-26T16:12:39.744-07:002013-05-26T16:12:39.744-07:00I think she put the camera in the wash intentional...I think she put the camera in the wash intentionally. The sheets were already in the dryer and the camera was in the wash with several bloody clothing items of Travis. She would have noticed the camera when she put the sheets in the dryer and put the new load in. She's no camera expert, she thought the pics were permanently gone and they almost were, it took a lot for experts to get those Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-60438246443602650342013-05-26T16:09:29.048-07:002013-05-26T16:09:29.048-07:00Even if Jodi had had close GF's trying to slap...Even if Jodi had had close GF's trying to slap her into reality, she wouldn't have listened anyway...she was too far gone. HLN spoke to a former co-worker of hers, sounded like an older lady, and she said she was constantly telling Jodi to leave Travis alone, that he wasn't going to want her if she was calling him all the time. She said Jodi would not listen to her, she was so Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-64150790122887003612013-05-26T15:55:49.981-07:002013-05-26T15:55:49.981-07:00Okay, this is where so many people have gotten the...Okay, this is where so many people have gotten their impression of Jodi from. SHOW ME THE PROOF THAT JODI ACTUALLY DID OF ANY OF THESE THINGS YOUR SAYING SHE DID, JODI LIED & BETRAYED TRAVIS AND THAT WAS WHY HE WAS ANGRY AND YOUR EXSCUSE FOR HIM TEXTING THOSE HORRIBLE THINGS TO HER??? You said-<br /><br /><br />"What were some of the ways in which Jodi lied to, betrayed, or invaded the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-86262937096102161392013-05-26T15:53:12.110-07:002013-05-26T15:53:12.110-07:00If every person who used curse words when angry is...If every person who used curse words when angry is considered abusive then everyone would be abusive. I don't curse a lot but I have gotten so angry before that I have said mean things during arguments with people, especially boyfriends or ex-boyfriends. And so did they. Thats actually normal. Butchering someone is not normal. Veronica Lenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08181438213451324687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-31968051651649206882013-05-26T15:03:20.877-07:002013-05-26T15:03:20.877-07:00Great article! I was particularly surprised by Mr...Great article! I was particularly surprised by Mr. Zervakos comments about how when he first saw Jodi Arias he just couldn't imagine her being capable of the crime. She's had 4 1/2 years to lose weight, become smaller and more waif like. I think he did himself, and others, a disservice by seeing and thinking of her in the present instead of considering what she was like physically in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-88652327733225273902013-05-26T12:36:38.104-07:002013-05-26T12:36:38.104-07:00I believe his is now trying his best to taint the ...I believe his is now trying his best to taint the retrial and any appeals. He will make unfounded accusations of juror misconduct, you wait and see. Then you'll see him as a defense witness. Mark my words.RipleyInCTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-6774420126426947482013-05-26T12:28:43.307-07:002013-05-26T12:28:43.307-07:00Excellent writing and observations. It was always...Excellent writing and observations. It was always creepy the way she would go around Wilmott when the last of the jurors left, like she was aggravated that Wilmott was in her way and a longing for the juror to look at her. It was weird and consistent.<br /><br />The pacts that they wouldn't try to change the minds of other people, and they wouldn't do interviews until after the holiday Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-27183821819811159122013-05-26T12:19:03.715-07:002013-05-26T12:19:03.715-07:00I believe this jury foreman is now trying to taint...I believe this jury foreman is now trying to taint the eventual appeal, no matter what the verdict. He's going to do everything he can to "save" Arias. Why? As some have suggested above, perhaps he thought if they couldn't reach a penalty decision together, the verdict of Murder1 would also be retried. He was wrong. He is wrong now to betray his fellow jurors. He messed up Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-64375719423270558222013-05-26T11:43:46.800-07:002013-05-26T11:43:46.800-07:00First, this was an outstanding analysis of the sub...First, this was an outstanding analysis of the subject. Much appreciated!<br /><br />Second, this leaves me with two uneasy thoughts about our legal/jury system. One, this situation seems to be an example of how a sentence really could be a "roll of the dice" in that the personalities of the jurors play such a huge role, perhaps to the degree that unfairness occurs. And, perhaps our Kelly Boyer Sagerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09209745663996296271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-32305800834677260212013-05-26T11:27:31.049-07:002013-05-26T11:27:31.049-07:00Anon 5:46 AM touched on something that I've be...Anon 5:46 AM touched on something that I've been thinking about re Zervakos. While I agree with most folks' reactions to him, there's something else I see at play. <br /><br />In my 70 yrs I've seen & experienced versions of Mr. Z far too many times. In addition to their thinking below the belt, there's also a condescending & paternalistic attitude toward women from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-44235378042266203902013-05-26T11:17:44.283-07:002013-05-26T11:17:44.283-07:00Jodi secretly taped the phone sex to blackmail him...Jodi secretly taped the phone sex to blackmail him. She threatened to ruin his life by exposing his sexual fantasies to the church and place of business. She wanted him so badly, she would have done anything to be with him. After sharing the tape with Travis, he emailed or texted the ' ...you are the most evil person I have ever met....you have ruined my life'.<br />The final encounter Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-8055068267607703712013-05-26T11:05:25.994-07:002013-05-26T11:05:25.994-07:00Camille, thanks for your perspectives and analysis...Camille, thanks for your perspectives and analysis. I couldn't agree more, and it was with frustration, that I tried to understand the foreman's position. In essence, it was totally sexist. It's a shame he derailed the penalty phase, and what's worse, he's proud of it. While I respect the time these juror's have sacrificed, he came off like a fool<br /><br />I also Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-1318490918414488882013-05-26T10:46:18.564-07:002013-05-26T10:46:18.564-07:00After spending 5 months of your life on a trial as...After spending 5 months of your life on a trial as a juror, I would hope their decision would be weighed upon the facts and not the looks of the defendant. That was disappointing, I wish the foreman had never stated that. My faith in the jury system has waned again. I guess it is true, pretty and mean girls always win.<br /><br />Although I am disappointed there was no agreement for the blewis50https://www.blogger.com/profile/17812946278907654526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-38405131787981894482013-05-26T10:37:21.485-07:002013-05-26T10:37:21.485-07:00Does anyone remember Claudine Longet? She too, was...Does anyone remember Claudine Longet? She too, was very soft spoken, much like Jodie Arias, but with a with a French accent. She claimed the gun was discharged accidentally and killed her lover, Spider Sabich. She had previously been married to Andy Williams, the famous singer. He paid for her defense. Like Jodie, her lover was attempting to end the relationship. She was charged with a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-24747679155226335222013-05-26T10:32:46.679-07:002013-05-26T10:32:46.679-07:00Particularly towards the end of the trial, before ...Particularly towards the end of the trial, before guilty Murder 1, I saw Jodi making it a point to look very focused at one area of the jury box. I now know it was where Zervakos was sitting. Her looks varied: confirmation, pity...anger. Letting him know he was on HER radar screen. It was like they had a relationship. At one point, I saw her drawing & looking his way repetitively as she Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-82288098380002395872013-05-26T10:08:29.358-07:002013-05-26T10:08:29.358-07:00What a disgusting man. And now his disgusting son ...What a disgusting man. And now his disgusting son is speaking out defending him and saying how proud they are she did not receive death. Wonder how Pervert Bill would be feeling right now if Jodi slaughtered his son. The man is a disgrace to this country and to our system. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7961681502337822401.post-84223372238016978582013-05-26T10:07:58.070-07:002013-05-26T10:07:58.070-07:00The defense used standard ploy of making the victi...The defense used standard ploy of making the victim look like he deserved it. This is what the sleazy lawyers do when their client has nothing to back up the evidence.If Jodi had told the truth from the very beginning,and not gone on TV with those ridiculous interviews she would have been in a better place. She NEVER planned on taking responsibility.She offered a 2nd degree plea,<br />The State Chris West Palmnoreply@blogger.com